Ruins (Pathfinder #2)
The rhetoric was not my only problem with this book. This book picks up after the events in Pathfinder. Our troop of heroes has passed through the wall and find themselves in a different world. They have to figure out what is going on in each of the wallfolds they visit and figure out what to do about the visitors from earth who are on their way. They are exploring their time shifting/traveling powers and becoming stronger. However, they are also the biggest bunch of whiny babies I have ever read. I found that I couldn't stand a single one of them. It is nothing but jealousy, envy, impetuousness, struggling for power for this group. No one acts as they should; they go back and forth on their feelings for each other. There are constant struggles to be the top dog of the group. These people were supposed to be friends; they came through some terrible events and yet all the seemed to care about was themselves. I didn't find any redeeming qualities in these characters and it really wasn't until the last few pages that they actually started working together. I also had a huge problem with how this was written. There is a lot of exposition in this book and not a lot of dialog. And the dialog is often filled with pages of exposition. A character will speak and then the other character will take two pages analyzing and griping about what was said before finally responding. Seriously! It got old really fast.
I am a fan of Card's work. I loved Ender's Game and actually want to reread it again. But I think his writing is uneven across books. He gets a little too wrapped up in getting his "message" out that he forgets to just write a good story.
There are a few times when we can see O.S.C brilliance, though they are to few and to far between to make this book anything more then an 1 star rating. With Ruins it becomes clear what O.S.C is trying to create. He is trying to tell a story of species facing genocide. One cant help thinking that he tells us an alternative story of Enders game. This time we are the Buggers and we are trying to stop humanity from destroying us. Rigg tries fill the shoes of Ender Wiggin. Ender wasnt allowed to
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are
A bit of a disappointment after Pathfinder (perhaps I rate it lower than deserved because of the disappointment). Feels like a second book in a trilogy - not much really happens, the end is vague, and there is too much bickering amongst the characters. Hopefully the next book in the series will also follow the standard trilogy pattern and provide more excitement and closure. Although I generally enjoy a multi-character personal narrative with views into their internal thought process, somehow it
Well, Card managed to disembowel another promising series. Unlike the Alvin Maker series, which holds itself together for the first few books, he ruins this one in book two.I have a few theories as to why such a talented, intelligent author can't tell a coherent series story. I think the main reason is that as his characters and plot lines are running through his head, they become more complicated and realistic to him. (This is great for us, because we get fully flushed out characters and
I loved it! The dialogue was great!
Ruins confused me.At the end of Pathfinder, our gang of time-travelers had passed through the Wall, with all the possibilities of a new Wallfold ahead of them. The premise of an untrustworthy robot was a reasonably good one. Then the facemask thing happened, and I got confused.Now, I'm a reasonably intelligent person. I've read a lot of science fiction and fantasy, including most of Card's other novels, and rarely found myself not understanding anything that happened. But pretty much from the
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Original Title: | Ruins |
ISBN: | 1416991778 (ISBN13: 9781416991779) |
Edition Language: | English |
Series: | Pathfinder #2 |
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Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are his views that he is pushing on the reader. It takes away from the enjoyment of reading. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have no problem with them writing about those opinions and views even if they differ from my own. However, I don't expect them to be pushed on me in a sci-fi book. If I wanted to read about politics and religion I would, but I wanted something else from Ruins.The rhetoric was not my only problem with this book. This book picks up after the events in Pathfinder. Our troop of heroes has passed through the wall and find themselves in a different world. They have to figure out what is going on in each of the wallfolds they visit and figure out what to do about the visitors from earth who are on their way. They are exploring their time shifting/traveling powers and becoming stronger. However, they are also the biggest bunch of whiny babies I have ever read. I found that I couldn't stand a single one of them. It is nothing but jealousy, envy, impetuousness, struggling for power for this group. No one acts as they should; they go back and forth on their feelings for each other. There are constant struggles to be the top dog of the group. These people were supposed to be friends; they came through some terrible events and yet all the seemed to care about was themselves. I didn't find any redeeming qualities in these characters and it really wasn't until the last few pages that they actually started working together. I also had a huge problem with how this was written. There is a lot of exposition in this book and not a lot of dialog. And the dialog is often filled with pages of exposition. A character will speak and then the other character will take two pages analyzing and griping about what was said before finally responding. Seriously! It got old really fast.
I am a fan of Card's work. I loved Ender's Game and actually want to reread it again. But I think his writing is uneven across books. He gets a little too wrapped up in getting his "message" out that he forgets to just write a good story.
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Title | : | Ruins (Pathfinder #2) |
Author | : | Orson Scott Card |
Book Format | : | Hardcover |
Book Edition | : | First Edition |
Pages | : | Pages: 530 pages |
Published | : | October 30th 2012 by Simon Pulse (first published January 1st 2012) |
Categories | : | Fantasy. Science Fiction. Young Adult. Fiction. Science Fiction Fantasy. Time Travel. Audiobook |
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I found this book to be a good sequel to Pathfinder. I do understand some other readers disdain for the characters bickering. I however, was not bothered by their childish thoughts and outbursts because they are in fact children. I think Orson Scott Card takes his time creating internal monologue for all the characters, which might seem tedious to read and get through, but I found it to be a nice way to make the characters seem the most real. Umbo deals with jealousy and resentment while RiggThere are a few times when we can see O.S.C brilliance, though they are to few and to far between to make this book anything more then an 1 star rating. With Ruins it becomes clear what O.S.C is trying to create. He is trying to tell a story of species facing genocide. One cant help thinking that he tells us an alternative story of Enders game. This time we are the Buggers and we are trying to stop humanity from destroying us. Rigg tries fill the shoes of Ender Wiggin. Ender wasnt allowed to
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are
A bit of a disappointment after Pathfinder (perhaps I rate it lower than deserved because of the disappointment). Feels like a second book in a trilogy - not much really happens, the end is vague, and there is too much bickering amongst the characters. Hopefully the next book in the series will also follow the standard trilogy pattern and provide more excitement and closure. Although I generally enjoy a multi-character personal narrative with views into their internal thought process, somehow it
Well, Card managed to disembowel another promising series. Unlike the Alvin Maker series, which holds itself together for the first few books, he ruins this one in book two.I have a few theories as to why such a talented, intelligent author can't tell a coherent series story. I think the main reason is that as his characters and plot lines are running through his head, they become more complicated and realistic to him. (This is great for us, because we get fully flushed out characters and
I loved it! The dialogue was great!
Ruins confused me.At the end of Pathfinder, our gang of time-travelers had passed through the Wall, with all the possibilities of a new Wallfold ahead of them. The premise of an untrustworthy robot was a reasonably good one. Then the facemask thing happened, and I got confused.Now, I'm a reasonably intelligent person. I've read a lot of science fiction and fantasy, including most of Card's other novels, and rarely found myself not understanding anything that happened. But pretty much from the
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